Shan Boodramis helping singles figure out what went wrong in their past relationships.

The relationship expert appears on the latest episode of thePEOPLE Every Daypodcast with host Janine Rubenstein, and she shares that, counterintuitively, she likes to recommend that people reach out to their exes.

“What I’ve found is that it’s very easy to rationalize somebody’s negative feedback when it’s just one person, right? Like, ‘Well, that’s because it was back then. That’s because they were this or that’s because blah, blah, blah.’ But when you’ve got 10 people all saying the same thing, it’s really difficult not just to look this in the face and say, ‘This is something I could work on,'” she explains. “That’s what the goal of the show is, is to put people in a position where they clearly know what steps to take next in order to improve their intimate fate.”

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Shan Boodram and Andy Cohen

Boodram has championed this method in her career as a certified sex educator and dating coach, even writing about it in her 2019 bookThe Game of Desire: 5 Surprising Secrets to Dating with Dominance–and Getting What You Want.

“Fascinatingly enough, one of the secrets was to go back to an ex to interview them, which is why I ended up with this gig in the first place,” she reveals. “It is to be able to prioritize your growth over your ego.”

The best-selling author also chats about working with Cohen, 53, and their lineup of singles. “He is the master when it comes to delivering the tough news and for responding to people in real time when people are faced with hearing things about themselves that are less than flattering. He was great at that,” she says.

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“Once we identified what someone’s real weak area was, I would pop in once or twice per episode to just give them some tips that they can utilize that day to start improving their score as of that night,” Boodram explains.

See Shan Boodram andAndy CoheninEx-Rated, which is now available to stream on Peacock.

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source: people.com